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# 🎧 The 'hidden debts' and two presidents, Nyusi vs Guebuza; and how Europe might finance the counter-insurgent coalition
- URL: https://www.zitamar.com/-the-hidden-debts-and-two-presidents/
- Published: 2022-01-28T12:45:42.000Z
- Updated: 2022-01-28T12:45:42.000Z
- Description: Welcome to the Zitamar Podcast for 28 January 2021
- Author: Zitamar Ltd
- Tags: Podcast, #substack, #substack-type-podcast, #substack-access-everyone, #Import 2023-04-06 20:43

🎧 The 'hidden debts' and two presidents, Nyusi vs Guebuza; and how Europe might finance the counter-insurgent coalition

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In today’s Zitamar Podcast, Fernando Lima talks about the latest developments in the ‘hidden debts’ trial, where pressure is still high for current president Nyusi to testify. Meanwhile, his predecessor, Armando Guebuza, is said to be preparing to take advantage of the public platform of his testimony, due next month, to damage Nyusi — something the current government is now seeking to avoid.

In part two, Piers Pigou, a consultant with Crisis Group and Cabo Ligado, joins us to discuss the prospects for EU funding for Rwandan and/or SADC military deployments in Cabo Delgado — concluding that combining the two separate missions could bring benefits both politically and on the ground.

Piers’ latest piece on the SADC deployment, for [Cabo Ligado](https://www.caboligado.com/?ref=zitamar.com), is now available on the Zitamar website, here:

**[Sobering SAMIM assessment reflects mission’s inadequacies and the insurgency’s evolution](https://zitamar.com/sobering-samim-assessment-reflects-missions-inadequacies-and-the-insurgencys-evolution/?ref=zitamar.com)**

Thanks for listening, and have a great weekend.